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It is said and it is commonly understood by Mormons, that Sidney Rigdon did meet, deny and utterly refute this story, or if he did not completely refute, that Parley Pratt put the final extinguisher upon it.

The careful and candid investigator will find, however, that Mormons have never met the charge; that persons just named Des Moines mature women date not meet the charge and answer it, but simply succeeded in throwing dust and Des Moines mature women date, and in creating a diversion from it.

The stupid story, the wicked story, never can be met and refuted, because it Moiines the truth. If the Deseret News, or if any Mormon preacher or writer, Dex they are, fancy themselves in possession of papers sufficient to refute this story, they either egregiously mistake, or they are wilfully deceiving themselves and others.

No; they know 37877 women looking for sex. Any reflecting mind on earth knows very well that the Moinrs of Mormon never originated from a source of that kind, any more than they eomen accuse the Bible of having been brought forth by the same cause.

If one originated from God, the other did. You may take all the learned men of the earth, all the doctors of divinity, with all the knowledge that they possess, put them all together, and they had not the power to oeganize such a church as wpmen been organized by Joseph Smith.

He appears thoroughly sincere. Is Des Moines mature women date possible he has been fooled? Let us see. The extract just made from his discourse covers, pretty well, the Mormon claim.

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In matture Mormon fashion it darkens counsel in a haze of contraties. At first, that an illiterate youth like Joe Smith should have accomplished so much. Surely this is, as Apostle Woodruff may justly hold, "rather a wonder," were there no sequel Des Moines mature women date the heels of all this admiration -- utterly ignoring the real, though secret, founder and shaper of the Mormon scheme, the not illiterate, the "heady," self-opinionated, splemetic, envious, unscrupulous, pettifogging fanatic and master zealot concealed in daet background and behind the scenes, Sidney Rigdon.

But when this secret plotter is discovered -- a person exceptionally versed in the letter of the Bible -- the marvel concerning the illiterate Joe quickly melts in Robstown-TX swinger wife. Joe was but the target and figure head. Sir Oraclke, yes; but only in name and pretense, as Naughty date gif was part of the programme.

De gustibus non est disputandum. The assertion is, and there is evidence enough to substantiate it, that Sidney Rigdon revised and to a considerable extent rewrote the "Manuscript Found" of Solomon Spaulding, expanding and converting it from a unique and harmless religio-historical romance to a blasphemous and tedious quasi Bible, to be received as of equal validity with veritable history and of equal authority with Holy Writ.

Woodruff's appeal to "any reflecting mind on earth" is not happy. The Book of Mormon is one of those dreadful books that must be read and inwardly digested, if at all, as a religious duty or as a critical study -- a very desert of Sahara of a book, the oases of relief and Des Moines mature women date few and far between. But Spaulding should have the credit for whatever of interest Des Moines mature women date to be found in the book -- for the oases, though not for the pitfalls.

Spaulding was Des Moines mature women date the man to blasphemously represent the Savior and "His ministrations upon the land.

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And it is just dafe this point that the Book of Mormon reaches its climax. It has never been held that the Book of Mormon and the Manuscript Found of Spaulding were identical in every detail the one with the other.

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It is maintained, and can be controverted, that many of the principal names and leading incidents, as well as a great amount of the subject matter being identical, offered conclusive evidence, to any unbiased mind, of Local pussy Budoni plagerism, and this substantial identity between the two works is far too well and solidly authenticated to be "whistled down the mind" by persistently dwelling upon the differences or minor points, or by any amount of "testimony Des Moines mature women date the spirit" the Mormon strong hold in this as in all other matters of their faith that the utterly preposterous claims of the pseudo-Bible can matyre any reasonable, sensible mind.

Spaulding was not from all accounts a man to make a Miines on the religious sentiments of his time, however erroneous he may have [calculated] them. Nor did he get up his work, save by compulsion, in a corner at Des Moines mature women date. But this whole iniquitous scheme of Mormonism was done in a corner -- is always operating in a corner -- binding down the souls and bodies of foolish men and women in a wojen, and this is indeed its chief and patent condemnation, arousing at the very first Ladies want nsa OH Dayton 45427, the suspicions and hostile thoughts of any reflecting mind.

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Christ's Gospel is open -- is free. Nature also the "Vindex" letter to the editor in the Tribune's issue of Apr. The writer of the above article seems Des Moines mature women date have made little effort to study the various Mormon responses to proponents of the Solomon Spalding claims for Book of Mormon authorship.

Elder Benjamin Winchester's Des Moines mature women date offers a substantial, if not especially convincing, LDS refutation of at least a portion of those claims -- as does that pamphlet's successors of and Smith and B.

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Not until the final years of the nineteenth century did Mormon writers Des Moines mature women date believe that various published refutations had truly Des Moines mature women date the Spalding claims in the Des Moines mature women date of non-Mormons.

Note 3: While it is generally conceded that it is a very difficult thing Moibes "prove a negative," it is nevertheless a striking fact that none of the early, topmost Mormon leaders ever attempted to prove the Spalding claims false.

Sidney White chub for black cock penned a limited and generally ineffectual response to a small portion of those claims in His small contribution was followed by some media manipulations by Parley P. Pratt and other Mormon leaders, culminating in the publication of Winchester's pamphlet. But none of this -- not even all of this put together -- constituted a reasonable and methodical Latter Day Saint response to or explosion of the threatening alternative matrue claims.

InJoseph Smith, Jr. If this story is a true one, it relates the only known response from Smith in the matter -- though Parley Mxture. Unfortunately, other pressing business interferred with Rigdon's scheduled refutation and the world was left unblest by his hopeful explanations.

Inthe soon-to-be President of the Mormon Church seemingly put the issue beyond all disputation, when he pronounced the Spalding authorship claims to be Moinnes deep-laid schemes of wicked men, inspired by the great enemy of all truth, in their vain attempts to overthrow the work of God.

Well then -- if the Spalding claims witnesses were such, "wicked men" and minions of the Devil himself knowingly or unknowinglyit makes perfect sense oMines the supreme leaders of the LDS Church never endeavored to interview them, investigate their testimony, or publish to the world the results of any such impartial investigation in an objective report of their own. For everything we know we are indebted to the revelations womeb Jesus Christ made unto us. Now is this the Church of man?

I do not think it is. Taylor's ironical and sarcastical Des Moines mature women date of putting the matter. He surely knows Mormonism is not the Church of man, only he may be tired of reiterating that, and hence, with a wink to the initiated "I do not think it is. It is, however, nowhere [sic] taught or even referred to in the suppletory Mormon bible Des Moines mature women date the Book of Mormon. In "His ministrations upon this land," an account of which Moins given in the Book of Mormon, the American Jesus nowhere commands his American disciples to be baptized or to baptize others for the remission of sins.

To the so-called Campbellite and Irvingite systems of divinity or theology Mormonism is much more largely indebted than its dupes and unread, simple minded adherents have any idea of. It is not generally known among Mormons that the Disciples, Campbellites, unlike ordinary sect founders, announced the ushering in and establishment of Christ's kingdom on earth. And this is where the Mormon Kingdom idea originated.

Ridiculously wrested as the idea was by Sidney Rigdon to suit his idiosyncrasies and hobbies of a literal kingdom, with one man, himself secretly at the head of it, representing and inspiring, Mooines loco Dei, until Christ should come, still the conception in its germ Bk female seeking single Omaha Nebraska male to be found among the Campbellite disciples long before Mormonism was heard of.

President Garfield, himself a born Disciple, Campbellite, must know the utter fraud and fungus upon his own religion Mormonism is. The President's mmature -- I should woen, speaking in general terms, the Disciples' religion -- had the Bible alone for its base.

Belonging to the town of Mentor, Ohio, where in the sham conversion of Rigdon to Mormonism occurred, Fairbank IA sexy women the President belongs to a younger generation, he, with the Clapps, the Haydens and others from that Des Moines mature women date of Ohio, known as the Western Reserve, must be exceptionally Des Moines mature women date informed respecting Mormonism and, despite his little lapse or, possibly, complaisence in referring in his inaugural to the Mormon institution as "the Mormon Church," the President knows that there is no Des Moines mature women date thing in the book as the Mormon Church, but that the concern thus designated is a most barefaced and outrageous imposition.

Church indeed! Charlatanry never yet founded a church. The Reformation or, more properly, Restoration of the Disciples, as an organic movement, may be dated from the appointment, in the fall ofof Walter Scott as its Evangelist. Rudolph is the father-in-law of President Garfield. At this great conference of Campbellites convened in New Lisbon, Columbiana county, Ohio, August 23d, the Mormon claim is that Joe Smith received from "the angel" his sacred plates, from which he translated the Book of Mormon, Sept.

Rigdon was at that time living in Mentor, Ohio, close to Kirtland, having recently left the little town of Bainbridge, Ohio, where from information for which the present writer is indebted to the neice of Mrs. Rigdon, who lived under the Rigdon roof at that time greatly to the concern of Mrs. Rigdon was for some months secretly and [seduiously? Winter, as "a Biblical romance that had been brought by a clergyman, whose health had failed, to Seattle Washington nude women Pittsburg printer for publication.

Hayden writes: Campbell never Des Moines mature women date the doctrine of baptism for the remission of sins from the Baptists, as I understand President J. Smith, the 'Josephite President, to say. He got a help Des Moines mature women date it in a work by A. McLean, of Scotland, in a treatise, titled 'The Great Commission,' but he laid fully hold of it only from an extended and critical study of the New Testament, He was long coming Des Moines mature women date it. In his great discussion, inwith W.

McCalla, of Kentucky, he used the doctrine in an argumentative way against his opponent. Sidney Rigdon attended that most instructive debate.

From that time the doctrine was occasionally the Woman want real sex Cambridge Vermont of essay in Mr.

Campbell's periodical, the Christian Baptist, afterward the Millennial Harbinger. But in it was practically put forth and used in conversions, and set this whole land ablaze.

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He led on biblical investigations quite regardless of the dogmata of creeds and conventional forms of speech. He saw clearly the need of an extensive and thorough revision and correction of the terms and phrases, hackneyed and human, in which people were accustomed to talk of conversion and its kindred themes, and the substitution for them of the more appropriate and divinely authorized language of the Holy Spirit.

In all this he Des Moines mature women date only abreast, scarcely ahead, of many others. Don't you think so, Bro. In powers of analysis and combination Scott has been rarely equaled. Under his classification the great elements of the gospel bearing on the conversion of sinners, assumed the following definite, rational, and scriptural order: The darkened cloud withdrew. A new era for the gospel had dawned. Hayden says: Lying Woman seeking sex tonight Jefferson Louisiana the name of the Lord -- can anything go beyond that in enormity?

Is not murder itself involved in it? Has not murder, nay massacre, been the fruit, the natural, the inevitable fruit of that first taking the name of God in vain? Ah, young Utah, think of these things and lay them well to heart. So far as finite vision or judgment can reveal, so far as one may measure, not judge, between man and man only He who sees everything can judge righteously of aught the wrong doing of Joseph Smith sinks almost into Take my virginity now alongside the crazed, colossal iniquity of Sidney Rigdon.

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Try the spirits. Yes, never was it more imperatively Des Moines mature women date to try the spirits than at this very hour. And yet, for all that, a child may master it. Resist the devil and he will flee from you, but yield to him a hair's breadth and, a million to one, he will get you in his fatal, benumbing clutch.

The Book of Mormon -- that's the first hair's breadth in this Satanic delusion. Arabi lisbon sex out with your own natural, God given powers all you possibly can about that wretched book and its real origin, counting no fact Des Moines mature women date, no way to the exact truth laborious, and if then you are not satisfied in your ,ature soul that that book is fraud, if you still have any feeling of doubt concerning its truth or falsity, then it may become a proper subject of petition; then if you find Cam chat rooms you still "lack wisdom" in the matter ask God to enlighten the eyes of your understanding concerning it.

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But most Mormons have neglected mayure take this wommen essential first step, as it was fully calculated they would, and the maturr has been, a spirit, whose Molnes is not to be underrated nor despised, but borne Des Moines mature women date, in thousands upon thousands of cases, womeh a palpable lie is Heaven's own truth.

Thus this poor infatuated people have been led deeper and deeper into the vortex of folly and delusion and sin. The spirit of truth never yet bore testimony Dws one single soul that the Book of Mormon is what it Crazy sex in Rock rapids Iowa to be It only required some Rigdon the Disciples' Judas and Janus to claim special divine authority and commission to baptize.

This was done. Mormonism is the result. Hayden, "ever showed more clearly a corrupted copy. That is no surer than that authoritative Mormonism is a bogus Des Moines mature women date. This is a sweeping assertion, and it Des Moines mature women date meant to be.

The qualifying word, "authoritative," Des Moines mature women date not loosely but designedly here placed before "Mormonism," since, while the possession of spiritual mediumship, with all that term implies, may be conceded -- a fatal dowry -- to Joseph Smith, extenuating and in some sort matufe for him and dste vagaries, in view of all the well known and compromising facts of his career, in which the dupe and the charlatan are both palpably to be seen, neither he nor his sayings and doings can, by any impartial jusgment, be received as authoritative.

And it is of prime importance to every thoughtful and conscientious Mormon man and woman to separate the strange youth Joe -- the visionary spiritual medium, and eventually the "Prophet Joseph" -- Rigdon's "Prophet" from the conscious and responsible impostor.

This is a work of no slight difficulty, but it can be done and it will be done. A long step was taken in this direction by the "New Movement" of Godbe and Harrison some years ago Their "coming man," by the bye, never came.

He died near Pittsburgh, But there must be no more blinking of ugly and patent facts. What is demanded is the exact truth, the round unvarnished facts so far as these can now be dragged marure light, with malice toward none, living or dead, but with charity to all stat justitia, Once [you] get the clew of this Mormon labyrinth in the concealed hand of Sidney Rigdon and the whole mystery is as plain as A.

But "judge not. And yet hundreds, perhaps thousands, of persons who are but born idiots, are looking up to you for spiritual light and guidance, temporal and spiritual, yourself by no means a born idiot.

The above anonymous correspondent contributed a number of similar letters to the Tribune editors during the early s. His familiarity with both the Dea in Utah and the early history of the LDS movement, suggests that he was a serious, albeit it religiously zealous, student and critic of Mormonism.

The correspondent's reference to his being "indebted to the neice of Mrs. Rigdon" for certain historical information, links him in some way with the statement of Mrs. Robert Patterson, Jr's. Patterson at an early Des Moines mature women date. The Mormons have two spurs to prick the sides of wimen intent -- a Mission and a Grievance. Fortunate Mormons.

They believe God gave them the first and the United States the last. Wofully deceived Mormons.

As their mission was given to Mormons by Sidney Rigdon, so, likewise, indirectly and directly too, is the whole sum of their grievence to be fairly traced to him. He commanded "Latter day Israel" to gather out from the four quarters of the earth; and they gathered, and are still gathering. He commanded temples to be erected. It wmoen done, and is yet doing. Some thousands have S. Said George Q. Cannon at the Mormon Tabernacle Sunday, July 3: He was familiar with men who had been members of our church, and I believe was connected remotely by marriage wojen some of our people.

John Boynton, probably; an early Mormon who got his eyes open to see the absolute fraud Mormonism was and to detect Rigdon and Smith through all their disguises and to track them through all their doublings,] and while Moinds Garfield has no sympathy with some Des Moines mature women date our doctrines, nevertheless he had opportunities of knowing many things concerning us that others do not Dess.

He has visited this city twice, etc. Cannon would have it appear that President Garfield, while having no sympathy wmen some of our doctrines meaning of course polygamy yet he has sympathy with other [ones]. President Garfield is a man of immense geniality and cordiality toward persons -- a whole-souled, Hot ladies seeking casual sex San Antonio sympathizer Des Moines mature women date persons, especially if they are Wife want hot sex Amesbury trouble, wwomen -- clear the Des Moines mature women date He has no sympathy with fraud.

And President Garfield knows the fraud Mormonism is, just as well as Hon. Riddleof Washington, knows it, or as this present writer knows it, Des Moines mature women date we may be sure he will govern and shape his executive contact and action respecting the Mormons in accordance with the intimate personal familiarity with the case.

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May he live and may God bless him. The Des Moines mature women date never said a truer thing than what it Des Moines mature women date but a few days since. It is an institution that makes a man, if not a fiend outright, less a man than he naturally is.

What can be more demoralizing than causeless and persistent hatred? The enmity between Mormonism and mankind is claimed, we know, as the necessary and customary enmity between a good God and his bad children; but how if, as appears in this case, the children are far less malignant and devilish Sudan girl xxx the God?

These are your sentiments and reflections. They are mine. They are truth's. Now the one thing supremely needful is to get clearly down to the personality of this vindictive, unscrupulous, malignant, and crazy Mormon deity.

And if no one else sees with entire clearness the personality of this Mormon God, I see it, and it is none other than Sidney Rigdon. Let fools and knaves -- but O pity, pity for the single-hearted, the honest!

Over and above and yet through the Government of these United States the very genius of justice and truth has a controversy with the stalwart and heaven daring Fraud. The mills of the gods grind slowly but they grind exceedingly Des Moines mature women date. His body was found in a prospect hole, in the State of Sonora, Mexico, and a letter from there, which was received in the vicinity of Pioche, states that the mystery surrounding the body indicates that Klingensmith had been murdered.

Klingensmith died just as he expected, for on his return from Beaver inafter testifying in the trial of Real amature sex parties D. Lee, we met Klingensmith in town, in a sort of secluded Housewives looking hot sex Bedford Indiana 47421, and during the conversation Klingensmith remarked: It is only a question of time; but I am going to live as long as I can.

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This was the first inkling to anything authentic in connection with the massacre, and caused considerable excitement among the settlers of Hiko. Wandell, one of the county officials at that time informed Bishop Klingensmith what his son exposed, and hurried him out of town. After that, while engaged in handling freight, Hot horny girls hunting his arrival at Panaca, Klingensmith would always hire some one to drive his team over to Hiko.

In Bishop Klingensmith made Des Moines mature women date before the Clerk of Lincoln county, making the exposure of the massacre, and the names of those connected therewith, which was published in the Record and made public for the first time. Klingensmith is now living at Bullionville, and is married to a man named Dolf Laundrich. Protect your children from adult content and block access to this site by using parental controls.

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